Speculation has run the gamut on James Franco’s uninspired Oscar performance. Some have claimed drugs were behind his sleepy delivery, while others have accused the co-host of simply not caring.

“People said I was under the influence,” Franco said on the Late Show with David Letterman. “I love her, but Anne Hathaway is so energetic, I think the Tasmanian Devil would look stoned standing next to [her].”

Fair point. “I never dreamed of being the best Oscar host ever… It doesn’t mean I didn’t care and it doesn’t mean I didn’t try hard, right?” James Franco asked.

Though some have accused the Academy Award nominee of exactly that. Watch Franco’s interview in the video above, and tell us if he’s managed to win you over yet.