[quote author=“jncsta2000”][quote author=“minijigga”][quote author=“AndruGearLive”]Kerry offered literally nothing, except for the fact that he wasn’t Bush.

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Thanks, I needed that :D

^^I agree with above statement^^

I want to extend an invitation to all the democrats out there…

How about we’ll stop beating the “Clinton/Monica affair” horse to death, if you’ll stop it with the WMD’s?

You can’t prove that there were no WMD’s, and in fact, most intelligence (especially prior intelligence gather over the years) at the time pointed to the contrary. Also, let us not forget the fact that he (Saddam) had chance after chance to comply fully with the resolutions, and he had been given a last chance to leave the country and spare his country a war “they didn’t want”. Looking at DS2 in hindsight, is no where near useful to us…so please, let the darned thing go.

let me point out a few things.  1. “How about we’ll stop beating the “Clinton/Monica affair” horse to death, if you’ll stop it with the WMD’s?”  To mention the two in the same sentence, as if they are in any way equal acts of wrongdoing, is ignorant. 
2.  “Also, let us not forget the fact that he (Saddam) had chance after chance to comply fully with the resolutions, and he had been given a last chance to leave the country and spare his country a war “they didn’t want””  What did the resolutions say?  Disarm.  Kind of hard for you to disarm a bunch of nuclear weapons that you don’t have, isn’t it?

Yeah, ok.

1. Don’t argue about opinions… I was talking about them as if they were points of argument, not acts of people. I didn’t say, “The republican’s will stop bitching about how Clinton porked Monica, if you guys will stop bitching about Bush ‘lying’ to America and getting us into a war.” HE DID NOT DO IT PURPOSEFULLY, AND IF YOU HAVE ONE SHRED OF EVIDENCE, PLEASE DO SHED LIGHT ON IT. NO CONSPIRACY THEORY BS, NOT CIRCUMSTANTIAL, I WANT A DOCUMENT THAT LAYS OUT A PLAN, OR A STATEMENT THAT SHOWS IT CLEARLY. If you don’t have that, you have nothing, so shut the #### up about it already. You sound god damn ridiculous saying that, as if any president would have the audaciousness needed to try and pull that kind of thing off.

2.IF he didn’t possess any weapons, then he should have let the weapons inspectors in, fully. But, as you’ll recall, he did not. The inspector’s weren’t allowed into places they wanted to check, and they eventually pulled out. Talk about “exhausting (an) effort”, we tried that ######## for ten years. Just go read any Hanns Blix interview…the “same game” was played MANY times over that decade. Give it a rest, what did you want us to do? Hire somebody to blow him while we sneaked people past? Give it a rest, it’s tired and pathetic.

why is it that you have to talk as if you are some kind of political genius, or even knowledgeable about politics?  By the way, it’d be audacity, not audaciousness.

:( Oh dear…

^ agreed, lets not get personal here.  WERE FRIENDS! YEAH!!!!  YEAH?! :D

YEAH!!!!!

So whatchu gon’ do ‘bout it, huh? HUH?! 😛

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I think it’s inane to believe that Kerry could describe his entire plan for Iraq and US domestic policy in two minutes.  Don’t expect the debates to give detailed information as to how each candidate will lay out their plan for policy. It’s just not feasible.

thats what i keep telling people but they are so ignorant and stupid that they just say something like “flip flop” and act like they know everything.

This is kind of random but I think it’s funny and very telling of how far behind in accepting reality the current administration is.

You’ll notice that was written at 4 am, PLEASE forgive my grammar and word choice.

That’s all you have? Attack me instead of my argument? OR is it that you’ve been shut up, and you have nothing else but to attack the messenger?

I’ve never attempted to raise myself above anyone on these forums, at least not consciously, and if there are others on here who think I have, I apologize.

I’m no genius, in any respect, but at least I have the intelligence required to respond without getting personal… unfortunately, on two occasions, you’ve failed in that area of your own intelligence.

I’m sorry guys, I know you tried to stop it from going here, but I just can’t. I’m easily baited, and he’s done such an excellent job at it…

no, actually, that isn’t all I have.  Have you ever heard George Bush DENY having lied about WMD?  No.  Why?  Because he did it knowingly.  Why?  Because he wanted to get rid of Saddam Hussein.  He saw Saddam Hussein as a threat.  Not an imminent threat, but a threat all the same.  And while we are attacking an innocent nation for personal reasons, let’s forget that North Korea DOES have WMD, and on the same point let’s forget that there are approximately 43 nations that pose more of a threat to us than Iraq or Saddam Hussein.  And as it turned out that the U.N. wasn’t up for attacking Iraq because the U.N. has SENSE, George Bush carried it out anyway, and said “screw it.  If I have to lie to the American people to get this guy out of power, then I’ll do it.”  As he stated in the debate, he “knows how these people think.”  But John Kerry doesn’t, although John Kerry has about 18 years of foreign affairs experiences over George Bush.  And when George Bush stated “we found the WMD.”  He was speaking of two trailers that they hadn’t even searched yet.  Pretty overconfident, don’t you think?  Unless he never planned to tell the truth in the first place.  And don’t act as if George Bush is an intelligent man.  He went to a prestigious college, sure, but do you think that was because of his test scores, or because daddy had a little pull back in the day?

P.S. Please accept my apology in regard to the personal attack I made on you.

I figured I would just add on to this rather than make a new thread about the debates. First off I want to admit that Bush did a much better job this time than last. Of course I still think Kerry won, but by a smaller figure than last time. Just a couple points I wanted to make. 1) When they were asked about who they would choose as the next Supreme Court Justice, Bush answered, ” I’m not telling. I really don’t have—haven’t picked anybody yet. Plus, I want them all voting for me.” What the hell is that supposed to mean? Can anybody recall the 2000 presidential election? Is that what he’s referring to? I thought that sounded pretty damn bad. My second point was the incredibly aggressive attitude both candidates displayed. Bush practically attacked Charles Gibson. I thought it made him come off as an ####### but that’s just me.

I, for one, did not like the way Bush handled the partial-birth abortion question.  But I agree, Bush did a better job this time around.  They were both kinda b**chy (moreso than the firs-time around), which I think hurt both of them.

I think debates should just be removed, and a best of 7 ultimate fighting competition should take place.

I would agree. Although this debate was getting pretty heated. They should just remove that damn 32-page handbook and let them fight for it. We could give them a wide variety of weapons like swords, maces, tasers, brass knuckes. They could tag out with Cheney or Edwards.  :think:

I would agree. Although this debate was getting pretty heated. They should just remove that damn 32-page handbook and let them fight for it. We could give them a wide variety of weapons like swords, maces, tasers, brass knuckes. They could tag out with Cheney or Edwards.  :think:

You forgot bats wrapped with barb wire, and flaming chairs.  At least thats how the Japanese Underground Wrestling does it.

Is it just me or does John Edwards remind them of a younger Pat Sajak?

Got wood? What about Poland? i think you can tell which side im on 😉